godzilla wrote:
: On Wed, 18 May 2005 16:33:01 +0000, Kohout Krusher <***@kohout.kom>
: wrote:
:
:: On Wed, 18 May 2005 16:04:40 GMT, godzilla <***@easynews.comm>
:: wrote:
::
::: On Wed, 18 May 2005 01:16:49 -0400, 33rd of August
::: <***@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
:::
:::: On Wed, 18 May 2005 02:21:49 GMT, godzilla <***@easynews.comm>
:::: wrote:
::::
:::: (snipped)
::::
::::: 2. pushing child porn.. if you know of a way to prevent it from
::::: being posted.. let me know.. again, backed up with facts.
::::
:::: Not carrying _obvious_ havens for it like abp.hardcore.pre-teen or
:::: abpe.pre-teen, etc. would be a good place to start.
::::
:::: I'm also sure you could obtain legal clearance from LEA to have
:::: someone within Easynews monitor the not so obvious binary groups
:::: for kiddie porn and report any violations to LEA and/or at least
:::: drop those groups also.
::::
:::: If, or when, they move to a new group, then drop that group as
:::: well. Hell, there are so many empty groups that you could
:::: immediately drop 50% and _no_ one would complain.
::::
:::: Kiddie porn pushers (and downloaders) only exist because they have
:::: a PLATFORM from which to distribute their trash. Keep eliminating
:::: kiddie porn havens until only "legitimate" porn groups remain.
:::: People that inhabit "legitimate" porn groups will not tolerate
:::: kiddie porn pushers and will self-moderate themselves...especially
:::: if YOU assist by reporting violators to the appropriate LEA,
:::: instead of sitting on your hands with your thumbs up your rears
:::: like you do now when you receive abuse reports.
::::
:::: NO groups to post it to, means NO kiddie porn. You CAN do
:::: something about it...you just choose NOT to, that's all.
::::
:::: Please don't insult our intelligence by playing Mr. Innocent, or
:::: like someone that's just plain stump dumb.
::::
::::: -- godzilla
:::
::: droping groups doesn't work.. people need to focus more on the
::: posters..
::
:: Start by setting an example, Mike - TOS your pedophile customer
:: Edward "(e)" Kohout right now.
::
:: He's violated the DMCA about 75 times within the past 72 hours in
:: alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.nospam - consider yourself placed on actual
:: notice.
::
:
: actual notice requires a 'written' response by mail.. but email is
: acceptable if we know the designated agent..
:
:: "Focus more on the posters" like you just said, Mike. Show us how
:: it's done. <G>
::
::: posters get caught all the time.. what the feds need to do is make
::: them make a 2 minute xvid and post it to usenet "I used to post as
::: ____ and now I'm doing 15 years in federal prision. Lost my job,
::: house, family and friends.
::
:: That won't work, Mike - Kohout has no job, no house and no friends.
::
:
: sucks for him.
:
::: I'll also have to register as a sex-offender when I get out which
::: will limit where I can live and work for the rest of my life"..
::
:: That won't work either, Mike - Gary Burnore's a registered
:: sex-offender and he's living and working as a newsadmin.
::
:
: sucks for him too. where at?
:
::: I think that'd go a long way to preventing people from posting.
:::
::: but the 'remove the group' stuff just doesn't work.. we've tried
::: that.. and some times we get calls from fbi or customs (ICE now),
::: that say "hey!, don't remove that group, we use it to track these
::: guys".. geesh..
::
:: LOFL! State the names of the FBI agents who called you and asked that
:: you MAINTAIN kiddie porn groups and knowingly violate the law, Mike.
:: I triple dog dare you.
::
:
: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22bruce+applin%22
:
::: after 10 years of running a server, I've come to the conclusion that
::: it is best to leave the KP posters in the open where they are easier
::: to track and arrest. There has been a dramatic decrease in the KP
::: content posted to usenet over the last 5 years.. and I think it will
::: continue to decrease.
::
:: And just how the fuck would you know there's been a dramatic decrease
:: in kiddie porn on your servers without knowing your servers contain
:: kiddie porn..Hm?
::
:
: we do have an abuse desk that gets complaints everyday.. not hard to
: read an email inbox.
:
:: Are you stating for the record that you DO know your servers contain
:: kiddie porn, Mike?
::
:
: of course, we get reports, we remove, we report, as per the letter of
: the law.
:
::: removing groups just pushes these people to other nooks and
::: crannys.. they even start to encrpyt posts because of the
::: pressure.. take the pressure off and let them get confortable and
::: pop-em.
::
:: Then go "pop" Kohout now, Mike. Show everyone how you pop a
:: pedophile.
::
:
: we can't 'pop' someone unless we know the copyright holder wants them
: popped.. contact the copyright holder and let them know the situation
:
::: that's my take on it anyway.
::
:: You ever been to Seattle, Mike?
:
: I have actually.. Caputo lives not far from Seattle.. was going to
: meet and visit with him, just never had the time while I was up there.
:
: so tell me.. what's the akula/caputo thing..
the UFFie-tard's *proof* seems to be his obsessively archived posts with
both of them apparently using similar words. heh.
he's been boring us all rigid with it for several years now.
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